Transcript SEEdebate Discussion During Presidential Debates 10/7 II

10/07/08 09:53 PM LizardKing i feel liek it's a waist of a question
10/07/08 09:53 PM CzarNickolas he'll impose mandates!!! he'll find you!!!
10/07/08 09:53 PM Republican4life Obamas comin after YOU
10/07/08 09:53 PM Newsbyte Nice point, Jakey
10/07/08 09:53 PM jfoye928 i feel like i have no idea where they stand on anything
10/07/08 09:54 PM jfoye928 just that they dont agree with the other party
10/07/08 09:54 PM JakeyJawBreaker i think it's good, cause that's what all presidential debates are, but i think it's bad cause that's not what we want.
10/07/08 09:54 PM jfoye928 which is usual a given anways
10/07/08 09:54 PM Traip-Gagnon mayeb the larger question is what is this debate doing, at the moment, to attract undecided voters in those swing states?
10/07/08 09:54 PM jfoye928 hah balding old man
10/07/08 09:54 PM jfoye928 no one laughed at that
10/07/08 09:54 PM thebrokenbox not much, really.
10/07/08 09:54 PM CzarNickolas no one laughed...
10/07/08 09:54 PM jfoye928 cause there all sleeping
10/07/08 09:55 PM Newscaster Dipped when he said that
10/07/08 09:55 PM LizardKing I can't understand exactly what they stand for, I'm too distracted from their put downs on eachother
10/07/08 09:55 PM Republican4life responsibility
10/07/08 09:55 PM thebrokenbox exactly, they focus on attacking each other, while they leave out the important parts.
10/07/08 09:55 PM CzarNickolas he just made fun of his base with that bald comment...
10/07/08 09:55 PM Traip-Gagnon privialge, right or responsibility...very slippery slope type of question
10/07/08 09:55 PM Traip-Gagnon could be interesting to see what the responses are
10/07/08 09:56 PM JakeyJawBreaker this question seems like a given though.
10/07/08 09:56 PM JakeyJawBreaker of course they're both gonna say it's a right.
10/07/08 09:56 PM CzarNickolas brokaw has his hands full
10/07/08 09:56 PM JakeyJawBreaker a right makes it easier for people to get it.
10/07/08 09:56 PM Traip-Gagnon McCain didn't
10/07/08 09:56 PM Traip-Gagnon he said responsibility
10/07/08 09:56 PM JakeyJawBreaker oh i missed that.
10/07/08 09:56 PM jfoye928 he should just walk out
10/07/08 09:56 PM jfoye928 cause no ones lisiting to him
10/07/08 09:56 PM jfoye928 and then they would brawl
10/07/08 09:57 PM jfoye928 and make even better history
10/07/08 09:57 PM thebrokenbox he should just tell them both to shut it.
10/07/08 09:57 PM jfoye928 brokaw should have a water gun
10/07/08 09:57 PM Republican4life Yeah but think of the money it would cost
10/07/08 09:57 PM thebrokenbox relatively cheap
10/07/08 09:57 PM Republican4life bad candidate!!!
10/07/08 09:57 PM jfoye928 show mcain what he gets for not watching the lights
10/07/08 09:57 PM thebrokenbox just flog them
10/07/08 09:57 PM Newscaster compared to elderly
10/07/08 09:57 PM jfoye928 umm...
10/07/08 09:57 PM jfoye928 no
10/07/08 09:57 PM Traip-Gagnon go back to our earlier discussion this year on the poitical spectrum, are these answers surprising (in terms of health care)
10/07/08 09:58 PM Republican4life YESSS
10/07/08 09:58 PM thebrokenbox I dont think so.
10/07/08 09:58 PM jfoye928 the liberal------>hitler scale?
10/07/08 09:58 PM thebrokenbox their ideals aren't very different.
10/07/08 09:59 PM Traip-Gagnon left to right political spectrum jfoye
10/07/08 09:59 PM Newsbyte Women could not like Onama's answer here any more- the "line" is as highas it can go
10/07/08 09:59 PM Newscaster the red line hit the roof on Obamas answer
10/07/08 09:59 PM Leighferickson yeah, newsbyte...i just noticed that, it was at the very top
10/07/08 09:59 PM Traip-Gagnon peacemaker in the world? Darfur anyone?
10/07/08 09:59 PM LizardKing he has a reason for thanking every question asked
10/07/08 09:59 PM Traip-Gagnon women responded very well to that question (men did so, jus tnot as high)
10/07/08 09:59 PM CzarNickolas DARFUR!!!DARFUR!!!
10/07/08 10:00 PM jfoye928 woohoo!
10/07/08 10:00 PM Republican4life What was the question. I missed
10/07/08 10:00 PM Traip-Gagnon those lines, for those not watching CNN, are women and men undecided voters in Ohio
10/07/08 10:00 PM jfoye928 its on the screen!
10/07/08 10:00 PM Republican4life where
10/07/08 10:00 PM JakeyJawBreaker wait, what channel is cnn?
10/07/08 10:00 PM Leighferickson i dont think that they're going to mention itt :( sorry gagnon.
10/07/08 10:00 PM Traip-Gagnon jfoye, depends what channel they are watching :)
10/07/08 10:00 PM suzzypoo doesnt matter, hes not going to answer it.
10/07/08 10:00 PM Newscaster I thought I didn't like CNN's audience reaction lines at first - but I find it really fascinating now. Anyone else?
10/07/08 10:00 PM JakeyJawBreaker cause i'm on channel 44.
10/07/08 10:00 PM jfoye928 me dos
10/07/08 10:00 PM jfoye928 genocide
10/07/08 10:00 PM jfoye928 were getting closer
10/07/08 10:00 PM Traip-Gagnon they never do leigh...they never do
10/07/08 10:00 PM Republican4life end terrorism
10/07/08 10:01 PM jfoye928 yeah nick, thats usualy the goal
10/07/08 10:01 PM Leighferickson haha... i think you need to send in a question about it .
10/07/08 10:01 PM Traip-Gagnon anyone answering Newscaster? :)
10/07/08 10:01 PM CzarNickolas or at least for a few minutes
10/07/08 10:01 PM jfoye928 where?!
10/07/08 10:01 PM Leighferickson me too newscaster...
10/07/08 10:02 PM Traip-Gagnon ok good *few* ha ha
10/07/08 10:02 PM Republican4life They claimed they had weapons of destruction
10/07/08 10:02 PM jfoye928 so much politicssssssss
10/07/08 10:02 PM jfoye928 cant handle...it
10/07/08 10:03 PM LizardKing these numbers don't seem real
10/07/08 10:03 PM Traip-Gagnon Both parties say their VP candidates won was the one for homework
10/07/08 10:03 PM Republican4life Obama hasnt explained how he will pay for his stuff
10/07/08 10:03 PM Traip-Gagnon LizardKing...I agree....use a factcheck website later tonight, tomorrow...they'll check those numbers
10/07/08 10:03 PM Leighferickson oooh okay
10/07/08 10:03 PM Traip-Gagnon taxes Republic4Life
10/07/08 10:03 PM LizardKing alrgiht
10/07/08 10:04 PM jfoye928 i dont want mpre taxes...
10/07/08 10:04 PM jfoye928 arent they already like super nuts?
10/07/08 10:04 PM Republican4life hmph. taxes. Exactly
10/07/08 10:04 PM Newscaster good Q
10/07/08 10:04 PM Traip-Gagnon depends on your viewpoint jfoye, it might be
10/07/08 10:04 PM Leighferickson humanitarian crisis
10/07/08 10:04 PM Traip-Gagnon way to go Tom Brokaw!!!
10/07/08 10:04 PM jfoye928 rawanda!
10/07/08 10:04 PM Traip-Gagnon so close :)
10/07/08 10:04 PM Republican4life hmmm
10/07/08 10:04 PM Leighferickson so close.
10/07/08 10:05 PM Traip-Gagnon we could have stopped Rwanda....fyi
10/07/08 10:05 PM jfoye928 go!go!go!
10/07/08 10:05 PM JakeyJawBreaker yeah.
10/07/08 10:05 PM JakeyJawBreaker YES
10/07/08 10:05 PM LizardKing bingo
10/07/08 10:05 PM Republican4life There you go
10/07/08 10:05 PM LizardKing there ya go
10/07/08 10:05 PM Leighferickson DARFUR!
10/07/08 10:05 PM Traip-Gagnon yes...lets take the example of Darfur
10/07/08 10:06 PM Republican4life Lead how?
10/07/08 10:06 PM Leighferickson the lines are way up
10/07/08 10:06 PM Republican4life You tell em McCain
10/07/08 10:06 PM JakeyJawBreaker this may be irrelivant, but mccain keeps whistling when he talks, and it really really distracts me.
10/07/08 10:06 PM Traip-Gagnon and the lines are down...this question is not about Iraq
10/07/08 10:06 PM LizardKing he reminds me of the groundhog from winny the pooh
10/07/08 10:06 PM JakeyJawBreaker HAH
10/07/08 10:06 PM Republican4life Genocide is in Iraq. Dont you see
10/07/08 10:07 PM Newsbyte The McCain Doctrine is tied in with Iraq
10/07/08 10:07 PM jfoye928 nick does your heart skip a beat when he blinks too?
10/07/08 10:07 PM LizardKing figures
10/07/08 10:07 PM Republican4life all the time
10/07/08 10:07 PM JakeyJawBreaker not as much as when he whistles.
10/07/08 10:07 PM jfoye928 he does!
10/07/08 10:07 PM Traip-Gagnon true...it is tied into Iraq
10/07/08 10:07 PM JakeyJawBreaker i do not like either of their answers to this question.
10/07/08 10:08 PM CzarNickolas im back what did i miss?
10/07/08 10:08 PM JakeyJawBreaker it's what i've been saying at it's absolute finest.
10/07/08 10:08 PM Traip-Gagnon genocide question
10/07/08 10:08 PM Traip-Gagnon without a good answer from either of them
10/07/08 10:08 PM JakeyJawBreaker mass killing is bad
10/07/08 10:08 PM JakeyJawBreaker thanks for the life lesson.
10/07/08 10:08 PM jfoye928 you missed so much!
10/07/08 10:08 PM CzarNickolas i did?
10/07/08 10:08 PM Traip-Gagnon never again....after Darfur, we promise this time
10/07/08 10:08 PM Republican4life Oh... interesting
10/07/08 10:08 PM Leighferickson hey czar! they actually talked about darfur
10/07/08 10:09 PM CzarNickolas damn. and i mised it?
10/07/08 10:09 PM CzarNickolas thats so saddening.
10/07/08 10:09 PM JakeyJawBreaker the only thing i like is that obama brought it up, which using a present day issue was a good idea.
10/07/08 10:09 PM Republican4life which he has no record on
10/07/08 10:09 PM JakeyJawBreaker even though he brought it up with lack of an answer.
10/07/08 10:09 PM jfoye928 can he say that?
10/07/08 10:10 PM Republican4life Yes it will end tHere. After Iraq is won. Which is so close.
10/07/08 10:10 PM jfoye928 does obama pronounce stuff funny or have i been wrong all my life?
10/07/08 10:10 PM stickwithchick i thought that to
10/07/08 10:10 PM JakeyJawBreaker yeah.
10/07/08 10:10 PM jfoye928 okay good
10/07/08 10:10 PM LizardKing yep
10/07/08 10:10 PM JakeyJawBreaker if osama isn't already dead.
10/07/08 10:11 PM Republican4life This crap would not be happening in Pakistan, if Musharaff was still president
10/07/08 10:11 PM jfoye928 cause i was worries
10/07/08 10:11 PM LizardKing long pause...
10/07/08 10:11 PM Republican4life I love that line
10/07/08 10:11 PM jfoye928 can he just come out and say were gonna kill him?
10/07/08 10:11 PM JakeyJawBreaker he just did.
10/07/08 10:11 PM stickwithchick i dont think so
10/07/08 10:11 PM jfoye928 isnt that like unconstiutional?
10/07/08 10:11 PM JakeyJawBreaker and i think he can.
10/07/08 10:11 PM Newsbyte R4L - you talk softly?
10/07/08 10:11 PM JakeyJawBreaker cause i think we should.
10/07/08 10:11 PM Republican4life Do I...
10/07/08 10:11 PM stickwithchick get the quote right
10/07/08 10:12 PM Traip-Gagnon asrep'o;k'
10/07/08 10:12 PM Traip-Gagnon sorry....that was my cat
10/07/08 10:12 PM jfoye928 i was worried it was politics code
10/07/08 10:12 PM Republican4life Patreaus. Woohoo.
10/07/08 10:13 PM JakeyJawBreaker talk softly but carry a big stick.
10/07/08 10:13 PM jfoye928 OH jeez i want to slap them both and tell them to sit there butts down
10/07/08 10:13 PM JakeyJawBreaker i'm not gonna lie, i kinda like that.
10/07/08 10:13 PM LizardKing I thought the quote was "walk softly, but carry a big stick"
10/07/08 10:13 PM JakeyJawBreaker oh woops.
10/07/08 10:13 PM stickwithchick ii think your right
10/07/08 10:13 PM JakeyJawBreaker i meant walk.
10/07/08 10:13 PM Republican4life No talk softly
10/07/08 10:13 PM JakeyJawBreaker oh okay, then i was right and wrong.
10/07/08 10:14 PM Traip-Gagnon Lizsrd King: the direct quote is : Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far,”
10/07/08 10:14 PM LizardKing no, mcCain was quoting him wrong
10/07/08 10:14 PM LizardKing thank you sir
10/07/08 10:14 PM jfoye928 like mosas!
10/07/08 10:14 PM JakeyJawBreaker i dunno if obama can talk about acting and talking softly, when like. 2 minutes ago he was talking about "WE WILL KILL THEM"
10/07/08 10:14 PM Republican4life Obama spouts lies
10/07/08 10:14 PM jfoye928 DEBATE!
10/07/08 10:15 PM Republican4life How dare you attack Musharraf
10/07/08 10:15 PM Republican4life Musharaf was at least pro-america.
10/07/08 10:15 PM Traip-Gagnon thoughts on this exchange? Tom Brokaw allowing them to go back and forth?
10/07/08 10:15 PM Newsbyte Notice, when they have response time, we stop typing?
10/07/08 10:15 PM JakeyJawBreaker i think them going back and forth is wasting time, and still really not giving answers.
10/07/08 10:15 PM jfoye928 i like that there talking like this
10/07/08 10:16 PM JakeyJawBreaker like everything else they both do.
10/07/08 10:16 PM jfoye928 it shows passion!
10/07/08 10:16 PM jfoye928 NO YOU CANT TOM!
10/07/08 10:16 PM Republican4life I like it. It is like a tennis match
10/07/08 10:16 PM jfoye928 or fencing perhaps?
10/07/08 10:16 PM jfoye928 but no so much
10/07/08 10:16 PM jfoye928 i just wanted to say fencing
10/07/08 10:16 PM Republican4life Hmmm... yes
10/07/08 10:16 PM jfoye928 its past my bed time
10/07/08 10:16 PM stickwithchick i will second that
10/07/08 10:16 PM Traip-Gagnon interesting...this is a question brokaw wrote (or at least, sounds like his own follow-up)
10/07/08 10:17 PM stickwithchick can he do that
10/07/08 10:17 PM JakeyJawBreaker he's hosting it. he can do what he wants.
10/07/08 10:17 PM Newsbyte Reorganize Afganistan...
10/07/08 10:17 PM stickwithchick yeah but can he just decide what questions he askes or is there like a set plan
10/07/08 10:17 PM Republican4life Met with him for like 10 minutes
10/07/08 10:18 PM CzarNickolas yes! responsive, not jammed down their throats!!
10/07/08 10:18 PM JakeyJawBreaker i feel like he has guidelines, but can stray from what he views important, once again, he's sorta the one in control.
10/07/08 10:18 PM Newsbyte Moderators should have control but let the debate take its course :)
10/07/08 10:18 PM jfoye928 i agree
10/07/08 10:19 PM CzarNickolas agreed
10/07/08 10:19 PM JakeyJawBreaker i agree.
10/07/08 10:19 PM stickwithchick agree
10/07/08 10:19 PM Republican4life Attack Russia.
10/07/08 10:19 PM CzarNickolas no russia...
10/07/08 10:19 PM Republican4life Oh god
10/07/08 10:19 PM JakeyJawBreaker i disagree with that..
10/07/08 10:19 PM Traip-Gagnon couple sites to use for factcheck:; http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/category/fact-check/; http://www.factcheck.org
10/07/08 10:20 PM stickwithchick umm what did russia do?
10/07/08 10:20 PM Republican4life Maybe not attack them per se. But down the road maybe
10/07/08 10:20 PM Republican4life oh jess...
10/07/08 10:20 PM Traip-Gagnon if you think it is, part of me hopes that watching it was not all about the grade :(
10/07/08 10:20 PM CzarNickolas why? for the same of war?
10/07/08 10:21 PM jfoye928 tusahy gagnon
10/07/08 10:21 PM stickwithchick why do we want to prusser russia?
10/07/08 10:21 PM jfoye928 but at the same time my grade could use this debate in all fairness
10/07/08 10:21 PM Republican4life Russia=evil
10/07/08 10:21 PM stickwithchick y?
10/07/08 10:21 PM jfoye928 and nucular waste!
10/07/08 10:21 PM jfoye928 cause theyre angry
10/07/08 10:21 PM Leighferickson haha yeah... "lets store it in the ocean"
10/07/08 10:22 PM Republican4life Are you paying attention to world events. You need to ask why
10/07/08 10:22 PM Sprite ok im out. thank you for all the help
10/07/08 10:22 PM jfoye928 yeah....they just let it explode
10/07/08 10:22 PM jfoye928 mabye they shouldve put it in the ocean...
10/07/08 10:22 PM jfoye928 but then the polar bears would grow gills and fin because of their exposure to radioactivity
10/07/08 10:22 PM CzarNickolas russia doesnt really pose much of a threat. theyre still recovering from the disbandinf of the USSR
10/07/08 10:22 PM jfoye928 and then they would survive golobal warming!
10/07/08 10:23 PM Republican4life This discussion with you people is like being in an overcrowded car
10/07/08 10:23 PM LizardKing goodnight sprite
10/07/08 10:23 PM Traip-Gagnon http://www.cagw.org/ (Citizens Against Government Waste)
10/07/08 10:23 PM gettinReal uhm, evening, just figured out how to post here. Overcrowding the car some more!
10/07/08 10:23 PM JakeyJawBreaker neither of them are going to give a yes or no answer.
10/07/08 10:24 PM JakeyJawBreaker maybe.
10/07/08 10:24 PM Republican4life Russia is a threat
10/07/08 10:24 PM jfoye928 okay its bed time nighty night all
10/07/08 10:24 PM Traip-Gagnon night jfoye thanks for stopping in
10/07/08 10:24 PM CzarNickolas well according to you, shep, everybody is a threat and we should fight them.
10/07/08 10:24 PM JakeyJawBreaker i honestly haven't payed enough attention to the current russia problem.
10/07/08 10:24 PM LizardKing me neither
10/07/08 10:24 PM Republican4life Maybe. You included
10/07/08 10:24 PM JakeyJawBreaker but, from what i've heard, they probably need a stern talking to.
10/07/08 10:25 PM JakeyJawBreaker to put it lightly.
10/07/08 10:25 PM stickwithchick Mccain it was a yes or no
10/07/08 10:25 PM JakeyJawBreaker mccain
10/07/08 10:25 PM JakeyJawBreaker is a kiss ass.
10/07/08 10:25 PM LizardKing agreed
10/07/08 10:25 PM JakeyJawBreaker excuse my language.
10/07/08 10:25 PM stickwithchick y couldnt he just say one word
10/07/08 10:26 PM Traip-Gagnon neither of them answered yes or no :)
10/07/08 10:26 PM Leighferickson the last question they both said "maybe"
10/07/08 10:26 PM Traip-Gagnon they both are....it's their job Jakey ;)
10/07/08 10:26 PM JakeyJawBreaker that is true.
10/07/08 10:26 PM JakeyJawBreaker like i said, it's a dog and pony show.
10/07/08 10:26 PM gettinReal nor did we ever hear how they'll fund their foreign policy plans
10/07/08 10:26 PM LizardKing it was an unrealistic requestion to ask for a one word answer
10/07/08 10:26 PM JakeyJawBreaker true.
10/07/08 10:27 PM CzarNickolas very true
10/07/08 10:27 PM stickwithchick they should still follow the rules
10/07/08 10:27 PM JakeyJawBreaker a yes or not answer would leave way too much room for people to jump to conclusions.
10/07/08 10:27 PM CzarNickolas ahaha yeah
10/07/08 10:27 PM Republican4life thats true
10/07/08 10:27 PM JakeyJawBreaker there's obama.
10/07/08 10:27 PM JakeyJawBreaker with the ass kissing to start off with as well.
10/07/08 10:27 PM LizardKing just like time limits, they always have to over explain themselves
10/07/08 10:27 PM Traip-Gagnon we can never allow a second holocaust...rwanda, bosnia, somalia, darfur....oi
10/07/08 10:27 PM stickwithchick i am getting so lost
10/07/08 10:27 PM CzarNickolas yes thay do
10/07/08 10:27 PM CzarNickolas i was just thinking that gagnon
10/07/08 10:28 PM Traip-Gagnon anything we can specifically help with stickwithchick?
10/07/08 10:28 PM Republican4life Darfur is different
10/07/08 10:28 PM stickwithchick not really i am just not a great multi tasker
10/07/08 10:28 PM Traip-Gagnon fair enough :)
10/07/08 10:28 PM JakeyJawBreaker darfur is different from the rest?
10/07/08 10:28 PM Traip-Gagnon lines are WAY up
10/07/08 10:28 PM JakeyJawBreaker how shep?
10/07/08 10:28 PM Traip-Gagnon how is Darfur different ?
10/07/08 10:28 PM CzarNickolas darfur is different because thay dont threaen any of ur interests
10/07/08 10:28 PM CzarNickolas -shep
10/07/08 10:29 PM Republican4life Reasons, how it's being done. and numbers.
10/07/08 10:29 PM JakeyJawBreaker the fact of the matter is shepard.
10/07/08 10:29 PM Traip-Gagnon ok...that does make sense...unless our interest is to prevent human suffereing and genocide....
10/07/08 10:29 PM JakeyJawBreaker regardless of how it's being done.
10/07/08 10:29 PM JakeyJawBreaker or the numbers.
10/07/08 10:29 PM JakeyJawBreaker it's still a mass killing.
10/07/08 10:29 PM Republican4life Darfur is NOT the holocaust
10/07/08 10:29 PM LizardKing just because it doesn' t affect us dones't mean we shouldn't help, seeing how we're one of the most influential nations in the world
10/07/08 10:29 PM JakeyJawBreaker it's still in that group./
10/07/08 10:29 PM JakeyJawBreaker and it still needs a solution.
10/07/08 10:29 PM stickwithchick we need to try and help them
10/07/08 10:30 PM Newsbyte Are we valuing energy resources more than human resources?
10/07/08 10:30 PM Traip-Gagnon as much as I appreciate this discussion on Darfur....we are getting pretty good answers/responses right now towards teh end of the debate
10/07/08 10:30 PM Leighferickson last question
10/07/08 10:30 PM Republican4life A genocide yes. But how can we prevent it
10/07/08 10:30 PM CzarNickolas by the way that wasnt my opinion i was predicting R4L's answer
10/07/08 10:30 PM JakeyJawBreaker then shepard, other than in a statistical point of view, what is the moral difference between darfur and the holocaust?
10/07/08 10:30 PM Leighferickson oooh an interesting one.
10/07/08 10:30 PM Newsbyte What don't you know and how will you learn it?
10/07/08 10:30 PM stickwithchick thats a good question in my oppion
10/07/08 10:31 PM CzarNickolas I think obama might hit this one out of the park.
10/07/08 10:31 PM Republican4life People died in Darfur as a result of a rebellion against the gov. The jews were massacred in the millions for no reason
10/07/08 10:31 PM CzarNickolas assuming he stays on track..
10/07/08 10:31 PM stickwithchick yeah because he is better at unplanned speaking
10/07/08 10:31 PM Leighferickson yeah, i also think its a very interesting question
10/07/08 10:31 PM stickwithchick where is he going with this
10/07/08 10:31 PM Traip-Gagnon good question stickwithchick
10/07/08 10:31 PM Republican4life Well Obama doesant know anything so he can do good with this
10/07/08 10:31 PM Newsbyte stickwithchick - you're getting the hang of this for sure..
10/07/08 10:32 PM Traip-Gagnon this is his typical stump "connect to everyday person" speech
10/07/08 10:32 PM JakeyJawBreaker didn't hitler use random reasons to kill the jews? just like people in darfur are being killed because the government found an excuse to as well?
10/07/08 10:32 PM gettinReal is there a blathering alarm foir them?
10/07/08 10:32 PM stickwithchick but i am tired of that i want the answer
10/07/08 10:32 PM Traip-Gagnon me too :)
10/07/08 10:32 PM stickwithchick i dont feel like he is answering this as well as he could have
10/07/08 10:33 PM Traip-Gagnon nope, McCain is having a much stronger closing
10/07/08 10:33 PM CzarNickolas i dont think so either
10/07/08 10:33 PM Traip-Gagnon will be interesting to see reaction in the "spin zone" after this
10/07/08 10:33 PM Leighferickson i think that the answer is very vague
10/07/08 10:33 PM stickwithchick it was
10/07/08 10:33 PM CzarNickolas thats true.
10/07/08 10:33 PM Traip-Gagnon oh....here comes McCain's stump speech :)
10/07/08 10:33 PM LizardKing he's stealing obama's theme
10/07/08 10:33 PM stickwithchick i learned nothing about what he didnt know
10/07/08 10:33 PM Republican4life The people are not exactly being killed by the government. And those who are dying are being killed in thecrossfire of a war not started by the gov, but a rebel groupre
10/07/08 10:33 PM JakeyJawBreaker i don't see why they're both just talking about how they've had it rough and still made it.
10/07/08 10:33 PM Newsbyte McCain is addressing the economy here, isn't this what many of the questions were about tonight?
10/07/08 10:33 PM JakeyJawBreaker that doesn't seem like the question to me.
10/07/08 10:33 PM stickwithchick why are they talking about there pasts
10/07/08 10:33 PM Traip-Gagnon they both stole all of our themese of change, support, stability, peace, etc. etc. :)
10/07/08 10:34 PM gettinReal Really lame ending for both.
10/07/08 10:34 PM LizardKing agreed
10/07/08 10:34 PM Leighferickson what don't you know and HOW WILL YOU LEARN IT?
10/07/08 10:34 PM Republican4life Not really
10/07/08 10:34 PM stickwithchick yeah i mean neather one is answereing the question
10/07/08 10:34 PM CzarNickolas they both pulled palin tonight
10/07/08 10:34 PM JakeyJawBreaker yeah well.
10/07/08 10:34 PM Leighferickson yeah...on well
10/07/08 10:34 PM JakeyJawBreaker what questions did they even really answer at all tonight?
10/07/08 10:34 PM stickwithchick that was a bad closing
10/07/08 10:35 PM Republican4life They said typical stuff
10/07/08 10:35 PM Leighferickson well... i'd better get to sleep... there is NO WAY that i can get up at 6 tomorrow.
10/07/08 10:35 PM CzarNickolas but none answered the questions
10/07/08 10:35 PM LizardKing nothing unexpected
10/07/08 10:35 PM stickwithchick there was no answers
10/07/08 10:35 PM JakeyJawBreaker exactly.
10/07/08 10:35 PM CzarNickolas ah well. bed time. night everyone.
10/07/08 10:35 PM Traip-Gagnon night nickolas, thanks for stopping in
10/07/08 10:35 PM Republican4life Well... they highlighted the difference between them
10/07/08 10:35 PM LizardKing see you tomorrow!
10/07/08 10:35 PM Traip-Gagnon night everyone who is leaving right now, see you tomorrow
10/07/08 10:35 PM Traip-Gagnon hope you enjoyed
10/07/08 10:36 PM Newsbyte Thanks to all tonight! Any last thoughts on the debate or on the spin analysis?
10/07/08 10:36 PM stickwithchick were are the VP's
10/07/08 10:36 PM stickwithchick did they come to the debate
10/07/08 10:37 PM Traip-Gagnon wouldn't be suprised if they are interviewed (VPs) byt he major news stations here shortly
10/07/08 10:37 PM JakeyJawBreaker pailin's circling the building in her white mini-van.
10/07/08 10:37 PM JakeyJawBreaker waiting to pick up mccain.
10/07/08 10:37 PM stickwithchick nice
10/07/08 10:37 PM Traip-Gagnon there jobs will be to attack the other presidential candidates debate performance
10/07/08 10:37 PM gettinReal bill clinton was such a pro at town hall style debates -neither of them came close to total comfort in the setting
10/07/08 10:37 PM stickwithchick who do u think one MrG
10/07/08 10:38 PM Traip-Gagnon bill clinton was a pro at debates in general
10/07/08 10:38 PM JakeyJawBreaker bill clinton was a pro at everything in general.
10/07/08 10:38 PM gettinReal true. true.
10/07/08 10:38 PM JakeyJawBreaker he knew what was up.
10/07/08 10:38 PM Traip-Gagnon it's tough, they both had good qualities. McCain was more effective with domestic stuff this time...Obama was composed as usual, took McCain tougher on foreign policy
10/07/08 10:39 PM JakeyJawBreaker i dunno.
10/07/08 10:39 PM Traip-Gagnon I think they are even at best, Obama will see his lead stay the same or rise slightly in swing states
10/07/08 10:39 PM stickwithchick i wish they didnt have filler and just got down to anwsering the questions
10/07/08 10:39 PM JakeyJawBreaker this is the first debate i've watched from start to finish.
10/07/08 10:39 PM Traip-Gagnon newsbyte? your thoughts
10/07/08 10:39 PM JakeyJawBreaker and i just wish everyone would cut the crap.
10/07/08 10:39 PM Newsbyte What are you most curious about, stickwtihchick?
10/07/08 10:39 PM Traip-Gagnon I did think McCain talked down to Obama a few times, he referred to Obama as "that one" or "that guy" a couple of times
10/07/08 10:40 PM stickwithchick i mean i got in a little late but from what i heard they really just talk to talk not to answere the question
10/07/08 10:40 PM Newsbyte Hmm, I did think McCain was more enthoused early on and maintained it, but Obama warmed up by the end and had a spark
10/07/08 10:40 PM Traip-Gagnon that's typical with debates, they have points they want to make and will try to make thos eregardless of the questions that are asked :)
10/07/08 10:41 PM JakeyJawBreaker yeah but, i feel like the candidates would do better if they just cut the act.
10/07/08 10:41 PM stickwithchick expecially the last question which neather one answered
10/07/08 10:41 PM JakeyJawBreaker and gave realistic answers.
10/07/08 10:41 PM Newsbyte I have a good website somewhere addressing earmarks - a project put in motion in the last few years that calls them ALL out. I'll post it at the site when I find it.
10/07/08 10:41 PM Newscaster I was influenced by the CNN lines. I would have thought that McCain was more effective in getting his message across, but Obama was the clear "line" winner
10/07/08 10:41 PM JakeyJawBreaker cause they're beating around the bush, saying stuff that they think people want to hear.
10/07/08 10:41 PM JakeyJawBreaker but most of the people i know what to actually hear a full and complete answer.
10/07/08 10:41 PM JakeyJawBreaker and if they don't have it, then just say so.
10/07/08 10:41 PM stickwithchick say what ur GOING to do not what u think i want u to say
10/07/08 10:41 PM Traip-Gagnon ya....Ohio, undecided voters, very much a blue collar state...women responded better to Obama...men stayed the same on both
10/07/08 10:42 PM JakeyJawBreaker yeah.
10/07/08 10:42 PM Newscaster They both have a list of points that they try to get into the debate. Remember, they are giving political speeches 10X per week
10/07/08 10:42 PM stickwithchick I get that but why cant they change it up a bit so idk they answer the question
10/07/08 10:43 PM JakeyJawBreaker that's what i don't understand. that have so many political speeches to just. rant and whatever.
10/07/08 10:43 PM Traip-Gagnon what do you all think? what are your thoughts about the debate in terms of winner?
10/07/08 10:43 PM stickwithchick i would think that there main goal would be to answer the ppls questions
10/07/08 10:43 PM JakeyJawBreaker yeah.
10/07/08 10:43 PM Newscaster They are both trying to get that "one liner" that will end up in the headlines tomorrow
10/07/08 10:44 PM JakeyJawBreaker i dunno.
10/07/08 10:44 PM stickwithchick that kinda dumb i mean what happened to speaking to the ppl and not the press
10/07/08 10:44 PM JakeyJawBreaker i honestly wasn't satisfied by either of them.
10/07/08 10:44 PM stickwithchick me either i really thought they would step up there game
10/07/08 10:44 PM Newscaster like Schwarzenegger's "I'll be back"
10/07/08 10:44 PM Newscaster true - but they are often speaking to the people through the press
10/07/08 10:45 PM Traip-Gagnon they're talking a lot about how both candidates make interesting points, but don't explain them or how they will work
10/07/08 10:45 PM JakeyJawBreaker yeah but unless they give straight answers, the press takes their twisted around speeches, and just toys with it depending on their biast opinion.
10/07/08 10:45 PM JakeyJawBreaker i'm sure they can do that with straight forward answers too.
10/07/08 10:45 PM stickwithchick thats why they need to give a stright forward answer and not BS around a question
10/07/08 10:46 PM Newscaster yes - good point stickwchick
10/07/08 10:46 PM stickwithchick cause i bet they will all be complaining about what the media says they said tomorrow
10/07/08 10:46 PM Newscaster If they are not careful, they will say something that can be misconstrued.
10/07/08 10:46 PM JakeyJawBreaker exactly.
10/07/08 10:47 PM stickwithchick say what u mean then when ppl take it the wrong way they can only blam them sleves
10/07/08 10:47 PM Traip-Gagnon the elusive gaffe we were all waiting for in the VP debate....Presidential candidates don't want to do that
10/07/08 10:47 PM Newscaster but you may not get elected
10/07/08 10:48 PM stickwithchick so what at least u got your ideas accross so the ppl could hear them and made them think of a change
10/07/08 10:48 PM Newscaster Politicians have quite a balancing act
10/07/08 10:48 PM Traip-Gagnon true...but no one wants to run for president and not win
10/07/08 10:48 PM gettinReal i also think that the financial crisis is such a mess that no one has good answers yet so they just blather hoping they sound hopeful.
10/07/08 10:49 PM stickwithchick then think about what ur going to say b4 u say it
10/07/08 10:49 PM stickwithchick dont just charg in with the first thing that comes to mind or u will have ppl taking what u say out of contax
10/07/08 10:49 PM Newscaster Do you think that sounding hopeful and sounding trustworthy is more important than having good solid ideas in this election?
10/07/08 10:50 PM stickwithchick no, i just wish that they would think b4 they speak so that our questions get answered
10/07/08 10:51 PM Traip-Gagnon CNN is goin to talk to those undecied ohio voters....for those interested
10/07/08 10:51 PM Newscaster yes - I am watching too
10/07/08 10:51 PM gettinReal No, but if both candidates avoid giving us details then the prize might go to the one who sounds something good:)
10/07/08 10:52 PM Newscaster I agree gettinreal
10/07/08 10:52 PM stickwithchick the prize running a country is not like winning a contest
10/07/08 10:52 PM stickwithchick it is not a prize it is a job
10/07/08 10:52 PM Newscaster yes - but a job you have to "win"
10/07/08 10:52 PM Traip-Gagnon true stickwithchick
10/07/08 10:52 PM Traip-Gagnon hate to leave but I will be useless tomorrow without sleep....and I know you all depend on me to be energetic and exciting :)
10/07/08 10:54 PM Traip-Gagnon thanks for sticking around
10/07/08 10:54 PM stickwithchick that we do
10/07/08 10:54 PM JakeyJawBreaker yessir!
10/07/08 10:54 PM Newsbyte Thanks again, Mr. G :)
10/07/08 10:54 PM Traip-Gagnon till next Wednesday, last debate
10/07/08 10:55 PM Newsbyte Thanks for joining us, SEEdebate chatters - take care.
10/07/08 10:56 PM Newscaster Goodnight to all! SEE you next time!